Cassie Thornton of the Feminist Economics Department drops by to discuss the Hologram — a framework for viral, peer-to-peer care she developed following a visit to post-Crisis Greece, and which people all over the world are currently using to make themselves “harder to fuck with.” We talk about the Hologram works, how to start one for yourself, and how to access the resources that are available to help you do so – and a whole bunch of other stuff, including antifragility, the Flat White Dimension, Miranda Mellis’s book Crocosmia, the brain fog of war, and what it feels like to be a human rhizome.

Terms and topics mentioned:
- The Hologram: Feminist, Peer-to-Peer Health for a Post-Pandemic Future
- Pirate Care gathering, Berlin, September 2025
- Social Solidarity Clinic, Thessaloniki
- Berkeley Free Clinic
- Medicine for Nightmares, San Francisco
- The rhizome in botany and Deleuze
- The criminalization of support for Palestine Action in the UK
- “Antifragility”
- Tensegrity structures
- The Hologram site
- Johanna Hedva
- Cassie’s new work, The Waiting Room
- T.S. Eliot, "East Coker"
- Julio Linares, Decolonizing Money
- Miranda Mellis and Crocosmia
- Ill Will Editions

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